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Was this the best trade in franchise history? Maybe. If we win a title with him I'd have to say easily yes. The Ethier trade was nice but why i put the manny trade over cause i think he taught him and alot of are young guys alot to speed up there potential. Plus his monster 08 year and what he did to the city. If you disagree put the trade. Im a young guy so if there was a trade in the past let me know, but manny trade i think is the best in are franchise

Hard to say if it's the best in franchise history, but with out a doubt it ranks right up there amongst the top and I have been a fan for over 50 years. I'm trying to think of a trade that had more impact then Manny did but none comes to me right now.

i dont like manny for reasons that i alredy put in this forum but as far as this question goes i have to said that it is one of the best deals in dodgers history since the results of this deal, the dodgers give up prospects that are doing much about nothing with others clubs and in that time manny was the main reason for the dodgers to be in the playoffs

there can be a talk that after that season it came his horrible deal maybe one of the worst deals in dodgers history, not the worst but definity a top 10 but talking about exclusive in the result of the trade well, in ranks amont the best

how funny is this with manny, his trade amount the best, his contract amount the worst

Reggie Smith for Fred Tisdale, Bob Detherage and Joe Ferguson during the '76 season. NL Champs in '77 & '78 with all-star honors and MVP consideration for Smith both years.

Good memory,but i do think the Manny trade was equal, if for no other reason his influence on our younger players, namely Ethier and Kemp
trian

Hmmm... Not sure how to measure, or even identify that influence. I think that's pure speculation.

exactly, i dont think manny influence has nothing to do with the kind of players that Ethier and Kemp are today, zero influence

That's wierd, why would Kemp and Ethier both say that they have learned a lot from Manny.

Because that's what we expect them to say. However, I'm sure they're not lying and Ramirez has been a positive influence, as I'm sure many other of their teammates have been as well. Has one player's influence made a significant impact on their performance? We can only make wild speculations, just as I can claim that Reggie Smith, with his experience and work ethic, influenced his teammates during those 70s pennant years. Perhaps that influence paved the way to coaching when his playing days were over.

well pretty much Tee answer this, still i remember they said alot of Pierre work ethic andthe kind of person he is too but i dont see pierre as a influence in the way they play the game, as it is manny, in fact if we based on that for influence i think Kent has alot to do since it was him that call them out in that year to play better.

i saw neither of this vets been as a big influence of Kemp and Ethier in the way they play the game

Reggie is one of the underrated players in Dodger history. Don Sutton was right (although he probably should have been a bit more diplomatic). He was a far better player than Steve Garvey was. Garvey was the third or fourth best of the everyday players on those teams. Ron Cey and Davey Lopes had every bit as much or more to do with the success of those teams.

Then its just a difference of opinion, because after the Kent Clubhouse fiasco, this team needed Manny, or a presence like him. When we got Reggie Smith the Dodger players of that era, Garvey, Cey , Lopes, Russel, Baker, were already established. Reggie was the final piece. Neither Kemp nor Ethier were considered accomplished when we aquired Manny, in fact many wanted to trade one or both of them. And now?
train

Who's to say Casey Blake doesn't deserve at least equal credit then? At least he was around last May and June, when those guys were establishing themselves as players whose potential had arrived.

Remember, Joe Torre credited the Blake trade as being the turning point in the 2008 season and said his work ethic sets the example for the younger players.

Casey Blake does deserve credit, but Manny is the guy that brought the clubhouse togather.
train

Again, coming from a fan this is pure speculation. How could we know this? Why Ramirez over Blake, when it appeared that Torre assigned more credit to Blake after the 2008 season and Ramirez caused himself to absent from the clubhouse for a good portion of 2009?